受访者16。 ：建筑师，女，1980后，浙江人
的亭子坍塌了，你如何看这件事呢？
在我们去之前，亭子就塌了。很多人，包括我在内，都在问亭子倒塌的原因是一种艺术行为还是结构的不合理。当然，我没有得到 老师的正面回答。也有可能 老师是想让亭子一直傲立在卡塞尔的蓝天之下草地之上，然而技术上没有过关，一场雨就淋趴下了。当然值得庆幸的是，亭子倒塌是在卡塞尔文献展，而不是威尼斯双年展， 老师此行的身份是中国当代艺术家，而不是中国著名建筑师。对于 老师的身份，有人说他从来没有承认自己是建筑师，但是不可否认，他在搞建筑，对于有建筑经验的艺术家来说，亭子的无意倒塌确实有些让人失望。 老师下次玩建筑的时候得多下点功夫啊！
看到很多人在网上留言，说亭子的倒塌象征着中国什么什么的瓦解，说亭子的意外倒塌给这个作品更深的含义云云。对于这些言论，我想学着 老师的口吻来一句：全他妈放屁！难道说有人不幸车祸截了肢也该值得庆幸，因为从此他的人生更加丰富？尽管那些古老的窗扇没有生命，但那破残的局面让人禁不住心痛！在国内，这样的建筑毁坏得已经够厉害了，没想到出了国门，还是免不了这样的命运，呜呼哀哉！
你如何看待艺术？
说实话，我被现在的艺术搞得非常糊涂。什么是艺术？电影，电视，音乐，文学，书画，舞蹈……如果是的话，那艺术实在是太太重要了，艺术差不多都囊括了我们的思想，没了艺术，或许我们就可以体验到最最原始人类的生活了。然而更多的时候，我习惯于把这些当作生活的一部分，就像吃饭睡觉一样自然，而不是用“艺术”的大标签来标榜他们。或许这只是我作为一个局外人的看法。
艺术家是什么样子？我觉得这个问题让我妈来回答比较合适。我妈有句评价人的经典话语：搞得跟个艺术家一样！好像说的是一个绿色刀把发型的青年，在说出“艺术家”之前，我曾以为她说的会是“流氓”。至于是流氓学了艺术家，还是艺术家故意流氓化，我就不得而知了，反正流氓跟艺术家在造型上还是挺有共同语言的。
在卡塞尔的时候，碰到一个挺普通的人，聊了几句，结果他冒出一句：我是个艺术家！这样正经的回答，我还是第一次听到：原来艺术家果然不同寻常啊，不是在外表上就是在思想言语上。我无语了！
Interview 16. , Architect, female, born in 1980s, Zhejiang
's pavilion collapsed. What do you think of it？
The pavilion collapsed before we visited there. Many people, including me, are asking if the reason for the collapse of the pavilion is an artistic behavior or an irrational structure. I did not get a direct answer from teacher for sure. It is possible that teacher would like to make the pavilion standing proudly on the grass under Kassel's blue sky. However, rain destroyed the pavilion because of technical problems. Fortunately, the pavilion collapsed in Kassel Documenta instead of La Biennale di Venezia. The identity of this trip is of a Chinese contemporary artist rather that a famous architect. As for the identity of teacher , someone mentioned that he never regarded himself as an architect. But it is undeniable that he is working on architecture and it is disappointing for an artist with architecture experience that the pavilion collapsed. It seems that teacher should make more effort when he is involved in architecture next time.
Many people left online messages that the collapse of the pavilion symbolized the disintegration of something in China and this unexpected event endowed his work a deeper meaning, etc. For these statements, I would like to imitate teacher 's tone and say: bullshit. Can it be fortunate for someone who suffered amputation from a car accident just because it enriched his life? Although the old window sash has no life, the broken situation wrings people's heart. Architecture such as this have suffered much destruction in China; however, it did not change its fate even out of China. How unfortunate!
How do you understand art？
Frankly speaking, I am confused by art nowadays. What is art? Movie, TV, music, literature, painting and calligraphy, dancing, etc. If it is so, then art is extremely important since it almost encompasses our thoughts. Without art, we might experience the most primitive human beings' life. However, most of the time, we have been used to the fact that we regard these experiences as part of our life, even as natural as sleep and dining rather than flaunt them using the label of art. Maybe it is just my own view as an outsider.
What does an artist look like? I think my mom is in a better position to answer this question. She always uses one sentence to criticize someone--"Act like an artist." It implies a young person with green and razor-style hair. I thought she might say rogue before she finally popped out the word "artist." I am not sure whether rogues learn something from artists or artists are rogues, anyway, they have some common words in their styling.
I ran across a normal person in Kassel. After chatting for a while, he suddenly said "I am an artist." It is the first time I heard such a formal answer and I realized artists are really extraordinary either in their look or words. I am speechless.
